From: Gary Zerbst
Category: Cruising
Date: 19 Jun 2000
Eddie, Don't believe the 6'4" headroom specs. Nanufacturers always stretch the truth as much as possible. A N30-III might have 6'4 headroom if you took out the companionway steps and stood under the sliding hatch. I'm 6' 1 plus a bit but less than 6'2. If I conciously stand very straight, I can just brush my head on the overhead in the main salon and I cannot standup straight anywhere forward of the main bulkhead.
You paint a mental picture of the N30 III as something almost akin to a J boat in performance. A J boat of similar size will sail circles around a N30-III or any other N 30 for that matter. This is as you would expect if you compare the sail area to displacement ratio numbers of the boats. The J's just have a whole bunch more horsepower to weight ratio. Nevertheless, I'd not want to cruise in a J boat. It's too uncomfortable on deck and below. In my opinion (there are of course dissenting opinions), too many of the J boat design compromises are oriented toward speed instead of comfort.
There are some common N 30 problems that you should be aware of before you buy. (Virtually any boat has it's own unique set of common problems)
On my 1982 vintage boat, the problems have been: Inadequate genoa sheet winches> Ive replaced the factory's Lewmar 30's with a set of Lewmar 44's and it's just barely enough when the winds are really brisk (say over 18 true and I'm trying to hold on to the 150 rather than lose time with a baldheaded sail change while I'm approaching the finish line. There are times when you need to sheet hard to sail upwind whether you're beating for a finish line or trying to sail away from a lee shore, and the Lewmar 30's just didn't cut it.) Port side chainplate leaks Port side bulkhead rot caused by the chainplate leak Port side chainplate leaks caused by not bonding the bulkhead to the overhead and hull side. When I repaired my rotten main bulkhead I also bonded the bulkhead to the fiberglass using an epoxy and fiber filler mash fillet of about 1" radius packed up well into both fore and aft sides of the fiberglass channel which holds the bulkhead. Now that the chainplate and deck are solidly locked together, there is no more movement of the chainplate where it goes through the deck and there are no more chainplate leaks after 6 years. Port side window leak (factory cut the window hole too big and the window flange doesn't cover the hole except by about 1/32 inch top and bottom. As the hull flexes in a seaway, there isn't enough overlap for the sealant caulking to keep it sealed) I've addressed this by building up epoxy and cloth to make the hole smaller then reinstalling the window. We'll see how it works. Motor mount bolts holding the aluminum motormount frame to the boat's fiberglass bosses vibrates loose every 20 hours or so. Plastic Gate valves at through hulls with insufficient hose barbs to accept a double hoseclamp. I intend to replace all thru hulls, seacocks and tailpieces but haven't yet scraped together enough money to do it simultaneously with the expenses of the annual boattom job haulout. Totally inadequate electrical charging system (wires so small that alternator voltage doesn't make it to the batterys) I had to totally replace all wiring in the charging and battery system from altermator to ampmeter and up to the breaker panel and from alternator to battery switch and from battery switch to batteries to eliminate the voltage drop in the wires. Now I can fully charge the batteries for the first time. The one main circuit breaker was the only overload protection in the electrical panel. To carry all the loads simultaneously, the breaker has to be too large to protect the small diameter wires in an individual circuit and to keep the small wires from burning up (and maybe burning up the boat) in the event of an electrical overload. I had to have a custom breaker panel fabricated to replace the old switch plate panel) Bottom blisters (not biguns but thousands and thousands of em) Voids in the hull laminate (at least in my 82 model) Fortunately, the hull laminate is really thick cause it needs the thickness to overcome the poor fiberglassing workmanship. Unbalanced rudder design makes a very very heavy helm when weatherhelm builds up or in a following sea (when she's trying to swap ends). In a 8-10 ft following sea whose crest to trough distance was about equal to the boat length, the tiller forces threw my wife around the cockpit like a rag doll. I am a husky 200 plus pounder in reasonable condition and it was all I could do to control the tiller. If it had taken us an hour longer to reach sheltered waters, I would have been too exhausted to continue at the helm and would have just had to accept the capsize) If I'd had factory wheel steering, I would have capsized because of the time it takes to go from hard over to hard over with a wheel. Also, the factory wheel steering is undersized in both blocks, wires and rudderpost quadrant. I'm sure that under those conditions, wheel steeering would have failed. I'm designing and building a new and more balanced rudder to ease the heavy helm. I'll know if it works when I get it finished and installed and then find another storm like the one mentioned above to test the rudder. Standing rigging is one size (diameter) too small. Each cap shroud and the forestay and backstay should be strong enough to lift the entire boat by. I haven't fixed this one yet. Forward lower shrouds just bolt down to the deck.. There is no added structure to reinforce the deck against the pull of the forward lower shrouds.
So- I've had 18 years to discover the boat's problems and I'm pretty thorough. With all those problems, you might ask why I've kept the boat for 18 years. The answer is that I have and still do take care of the problems as they come evident and thus she's becoming a better and better boat each year. With all her faults, I've not found another boat that serves my needs or wants signifigantly better. That's not to say that there aren't other boats out there that I covet. There are just no other boats out there that I covet enough to buy. If I were to change boats, the difference in quality of the sailing experience would be increase only such a little bit and the added cost would be incredible.
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